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Observation of the art room at school, watercolor +a little PS.

I'd really, really appreciate any critiques! I have a lot of trouble with figures/traditional so any help would be very useful to me!


Been trying lately to get some more varied work into my portfolio. Most work like this I'll post at my studies/sketch tumblr since it might be less interesting to some people!
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:iconmaliqueg:
I have been on Deviant art for quite a while now and I have not seen a piece like this.
The numerous items you have been able to add to tit without it appearing over crowded is simply astonishing.
The fact that you have been able to grasp all of the elements of an art room and make a piece as refined as this is amazing however It does lack detail in a certain way.
For example it could be improved by implementing more shadows.
The majority of shadow used appears to be only on the students and also in the shelves although the amount that was used added an amazing effect to it a higher level should be used if the piece were to be remade.
overall it is a very original piece and the technique you showed was simply delightful however i do recommend that you try to add more detail.
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Love the detail! Like Maliqueg said maybe putting more shadows will help,yet I wouldn't over do it! Despite this love the color scheme nothing too extreme popping out ,but maybe just a few shadows in certain places would spice it up? Also the painting has a lot of energy in it with the artists working and some of the facial expressions really shows concentration in what they are doing.Anyway great painting and look forward to see more of your work! I'm trying to decide if to jump into watercolors or not as in class we started with ink washes that behave just like watercolors and I absolutely love the ink washes , yet love to do one in like watercolors. In your opinion should I attempt watercolors and what would be a good place to buy a like beginner set at? Anyway love the piece again and keep at it.
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asiapasek Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2015  Professional Traditional Artist
great job! you have portrayed the mood of brightly-lit and busy scene very well. People are a bit simplified, but I think it's even better. The goal is not to recreate a photo with paint, I belive!
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Foyaland Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  Professional Filmographer
great work! 
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Cosmic-Anomaly Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Llama Emoji-21 (Speechless) [V1] "Aaaahhh my eye's...it's soo too awesome!" Llama Emoji-65 (Blood Tears...) [V3]  
 
Lmao.. 
Pikachu-lol 
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Matoki Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014
This is so gorgeous and charming. 
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MoneyHunter Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014
This is so wonderful Clap 
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Superartguy Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I cant get enough of your art, really like every one. You attention to detail and perspective is truely amazing.
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KristenSpork Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013   General Artist
Beautiful. ♥
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Gryffgirl Featured By Owner May 14, 2013
Beautiful details and colors! It brings back many pleasant classroom memories! :heart:
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Reluin Featured By Owner May 15, 2013
I'm glad it brings back memories for you! Hopefully it can do the same for me someday ;v;
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dravnofficial Featured By Owner May 1, 2013
Love the colors.
Reminds me of the anime GA Art Design Class.
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Reluin Featured By Owner May 15, 2013
Oh I've seen that manga at the store haha ^^ Thanks!
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dravnofficial Featured By Owner May 15, 2013
It's a very fun story.
There's an anime as well...I think you'd like it. :)
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:iconreluin:
Reluin Featured By Owner May 15, 2013
Might check it out if I ever get time, it did look interesting.
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13-15-15-14-10-1 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I LOVE IT~!!! :O
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BluDrgn426 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I really wish my elementary school's art room looked like this
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alexguim Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Wow, i love the white on the floor to contraste with all. Thanks for share. Best.
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Cheboboh Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Very nice!
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Kapuschati Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student Interface Designer
I like this one very much!
Keep uploading stuff! This is really really good!
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Shiisa-sa Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I love your painting.
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hyamei Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
I just love the clutter all over, everything feels so natural. aaa and the warmness of the colors does add the feeling of nostalgia.
love how you challenge yourself more to doing more traditional! :D
I don't really have much to add to the other critiques (about the perspective/shadows)

darn I also noticed how I never actually seen your stuff lately on my dashboard for some reason! (I already noticed this way back) :doh:
I really don't know whyy. so forgive me for always checking your stuff so late!
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Reluin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
well, I figure I'd better be doing as much traditional work as I can before I graduate and lose access to all the supplies ;v;

oh no, that's weird. don't worry about it though, I'm happy you check by at all!~~ :blowkiss:
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thisismyboat Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
It's a very cute piece. My suggestion would be to add a wider range of values to create a focal point within the piece. Right now everything is of almost-equal value, so it's a little hard to differentiate between planes sometimes and it doesn't give my eyes anything to focus on. Maybe you could have made the girls at the middle table the focus, and made the rest of the painting darker/less saturated. Either way, I really like this piece. Reminds me of how I used to spend hours after school in the art room.
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Reluin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
Good idea, I see what you mean. I definitely need to be more careful with values, will work on that. Thanks for the help!
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TamiTw Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
WHAT wow. I wish I could be of this caliber some day..This is beautiful
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Reluin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
Thank you! It's just practice, I'm sure you'll become much much better!
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jailgurdnegative Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist
This is an awesome watercolor piece. :)
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Isho13 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Really nice, I love how it has quite the amount of details but still looks messy. :)
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Reluin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
Thanks! I really love cluttering my picture with details @v@
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Narcaholic Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Student
Love the colours, great job (:
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Dana-T Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013   Filmographer
really lovely work, I love how you kept the ground white. I actually think if you put any pattern or color to it it would muddy up the whole image. If you're feeling like it's floaty maybe add some soft shadows to ground the figures and objects but otherwise I would't bother. I noticed someone said that there's too much detail or not enough simplification or whatever but I'm the kind of person who LOVES that kind of overwhelming detail, it's just fun to look at and you keep discovering more things. You've already got heaps of skill, I feel like most critiques (for this individual piece) would be based more on personal biases.
Keep up the kickassery!
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:iconreluin:
Reluin Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013
That's what I thought too, and I really like big graphic blank areas next to lots of detail! I'll try out the soft shadows though, just to check. I've got such a weakness for detail(noticeably), I think most people would just prefer it more carefully placed.
oh thanks! You keep up the great work too, I'm always inspired when I see your sketches around tumblr.
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LocoLugo92 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
This reminded me of my old ap art room, looks almost identical to it :)
brought back memories, thanks!
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Reluin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
cool I'm glad it did!
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shases Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013
I feel I am far too inferior art-wise to critique your work but here goes:

Pros: The atmosphere is very nice and calm, gives off the impression of a good, friendly working environment, I think the slightly-warm colour palette (which is lovely by the way) also helps give that impression.

I really like the way none of the characters are paying attention to the viewer, everyone's too busy with their work - I know this may seem like just a small, unimportant detail, but in my opinion it helps further the idea of a good working environment as no one is procrastinating.

Your attention to detail is great, you can make out so many of the objects, even from the background.

And these two pros may be just personal, but I really like the way you rendered the plants, and the characters' faces.

I don't really know what to critique about the figures, they look fine to me and have a very natural feeling to their poses/movement. I don't know... the proportions may be slightly off?, but they could just as well be children in which case they look good. I really don't know what to say.

Cons: The first thing I noticed was off is the perspective, while I don't think it's flawed in itself, the plane of the floor looks like it's tilted to the right, which makes me (as a viewer) wonder how much longer until the chairs, tables and characters go sliding in that direction. And again, this is only my opinion, but I would have made the perspective in such a way that it would make the floor not look tilted, the piece has such a calm atmosphere, a "stable" floor would have made it even more calm.

Speaking of that floor, I think it could be darker or have some sort of details on it, even if in reality it was pearly-white with not even a single speck of dust on it, the way it is now gives rather "floaty" impression to the objects on it... like there's not actually any floor there, I don't know how to explain this any better, sorry, but I'm hoping you got the idea.

Another thing would be the details, I know I said in the pros section that I like your eye for detail - I wasn't just saying that, but here's the deal - the foreground lacks in details (which is not a problem, because you want the viewer to pay attention to the characters in the middle-ground, or at least that seems to be the intention), the problem is that the middle-ground and background are just as detailed which makes the viewer continually move their sight from one place to another, in other words the piece lacks an actual centre of interest. I think this could be fixed by either washing out the background a bit and/or making the middle-ground more detailed.

More contrast would also help... it feels a bit lacking in that department, well, to me at least.

So, overall it's a good piece, with lovely atmosphere and colours, you only need to work on where you want your viewer to look (or how you want to direction their sight).

Hope this made some sense and that you find it even a little bit useful.

Cheers~
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Reluin Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013
Wow thanks so much for the in-depth comment! This is really helpful, and I agree with you on most of the cons, I'm really glad to have them pointed out to me. I understand the problem with the floor, I'll experiment with patterns and shadows and see if I can help that. Will up the contrast a bit too, looking with fresh eyes I see that. I'm glad you mentioning the point of interest/directing the viewers eye problem, I have a lot of trouble with that as shown here! I'll try to fix it, and keep it in mind for future pictures.
I'm a bit confused about the perspective issue though, right now I don't see how it's tilted to the right, do you have any suggestions for fixing it?
I really appreciate the help anyway, thanks again!
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heyelsi Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Sorry for butting in this exchange but now that I've read incolor's comment and took a new glance to the picture, I think I know where that perspective and tilted thing come from. The table in the middle looks like it's not as tall as the one in the upper part of the picture. But where it gets confusing is if the middle table goes under the upper one or not. If you look on the left, the darker shade of brown looks like a shadow cast on the middle table which is the cause of that strange effect. Because you just need to look at the girl in the center of the illustration to see both tables are actually some distance apart.

Having both side by side provoke a disturbing feeling hence the weird perspective/tilted feeling.

Also, about shadows and the floor. I think this picture truly have a problem with shadows. Nobody in the room have any shadows. Nor do the chairs, tables, plants, ect... It's a well lit room, so of course, the shadows have to be faint, but here, it feels like there is no ground nor difference between foreground and background.
Also the curtains and column which are against the light going through the window are bound to be much much darker. Of course, if that's a window in the back. If it's not, it's way too bright in my opinion. It looks like the light comes from over there but that would be impossible if it's a wall.

It's not so much about contrast as to decide of where the different sources of light are and rendering the shadows in consequences. Right now it's more or less only flat colors.
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Reluin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
Thanks for the help! I see that the tables make a wierd tangent, I've edited the picture a bit to try to fix the problem, I think it should be fixed now. Worked on shadows too, thanks for catching me on that. The column and the curtain(I think you mean the red/pink square? this was meant to be another painting) aren't very dark because the light is meant to be coming from the left - in the actual room, there's a wall of windows there besides the window in the back and lights overhead, so there's not many deep shadows.
Thanks again for pointing these things out, it was really helpful to me!
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heyelsi Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Actually, in regard to the shadows matter, I've tried and turn illustrations from you gallery to gray scales. It becomes more obvious then that most of the time, your pictures lack blacks/darks and white/lights.

I advice you to remember to try turning your pictures to gray scales to see how are the shadows and contrasts. It's an advice I received in color class and I think it's a very good advice. Also as much as I understand that you may prefer working with colors, maybe you should try to work in gray scales/black and white from time to time too. Might help!
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shases Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Glad you found it helpful!

I have the same problem with the point of interest thing, I also like making detailed works and it can be hard to maintain a point of interest, I've noticed colours can help a lot.

You can forget the perspective thing though, now that I'm looking at it after a good night's rest it does not look so tilted anymore, I don't know why it seemed so weird to me yesterday, I'm sorry for pointing out something that wasn't in fact wrong U n U

You're welcome, and I look forward to more wonderful art from you!
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Wagnr Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
wow O.o
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frozensoulghost Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
its... amazing!!!!
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1Ver4ik1 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Amazing. I like the soft colors
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EbolaBears Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
When I was in school, most of the kids were sleeping. The teacher was reading a news paper with his feet up on the desk. Most of the lights were out and the plants in the window were dead and had been dead for like 4 months:rofl:

I got an A in that class.
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Abiigaee Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Student General Artist
ooh this is really cool! i really like the atmosphere of the whole painting! and i also really like that you let the floor blank because otherwise it would look cramped? idk uvu
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TheLivingShadow Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
excellent piece!
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Koi-Winters Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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HEY! I'VE BEEN THERE!!!!! :iconilickitplz: That looks exactly like the art room~
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Insanepayne Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
What a fresh and vibrant place!
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Dr-Niji Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
I really like it!! The perspective is very well done!! And your use of watercolors is amazing! The room looks very relaxing and a great place to work!! ;)
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Reluin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
Thanks! Yeah I'm lucky there's such a great room here, the wall closest to me is a huge bank of windows and it's always bright and nice in here >v<
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Dr-Niji Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
Waahh~ It sounds awesome!! *o*

You're welcome! :D
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